The Big Issue 《大問題》創刊二十周年
The Big Issue 《大問題》創刊二十周年
The script of this programme 本節目臺詞
So we started on the double yellow lines of the West End of London twenty years ago and now we're all over the world, we are in every continent.
John Bird, founder of the Big Issue
Neil: The founder of The Big Issue talks about its global impact on its 20th anniversary!
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Li: How has this magazine changed the lives of thousands of homeless people home and abroad?
Neil: What has driven the magazine to a three million pound profit-making business?
Li: 在慶祝《大問題》創刊20周年之際我們一起聽聽它的創始人是怎么說的。歡迎收聽《都市掠影》節目。大家好，我是楊莉。
Neil: Hi I'm Neil. The magazine, The Big Issue, started in London and has been a leading voice and tool for homeless people.
Li: 是的，《大問題》雜志是為了幫助無家可歸者而創立的 homeless people. But where did the idea come from?
Neil: In a BBC Television interview John Bird, the founder of The Big Issue magazine, gives the answer.
Li: 請大家注意聽最初的想法是從哪里來的？另外請大家注意聽兩個短語，一個是 bloke 男人，第二個是 to get himself sorted 解決了自己的問題。
Well, the idea actually comes from America. Gordon Roddick, who started the Body Shop with his wife Anita Roddick, came back from America. Because he'd seen a paper there and he'd seen the way in which some bloke he'd bought the paper off of had got out of prison, got himself sorted and was not going to get back into grief and Gordon thought: "Well, wouldn't it be great to have that in the UK?"
Neil: Did you get it? The idea came from America.
Li: John Bird 說，他的朋友，Roddick 在美國看到流浪漢在街頭賣報，受到啟發，就把這個想法介紹給了他。Bloke 是對男人的一種非正式稱呼，to get himself sorted 解決了自己的問題。
Neil: The idea is to help the homeless earn a legitimate income.
Li: Legitimate income 意思是合法收入。Terry Gore 就是其中的一名受益者，在我們聽他故事之前先來預習幾個單詞。
Terry got some self-respect back.
Neil: No self-esteem.
Li: 沒有自尊心。
Neil: No structure in his life.
Li: 沒有生活結構。
Neil: Drifting about committing petty crime.
Li: 整天游游逛逛干些非法活動。Here is his story:
By the time I started selling it I'd been homeless for a year, year and half and I had no self-esteem, you know, I had no structure in my life, I was just drifting about committing petty crime. But the magazine, for the 18 months I sold it, gave me structure. You have to get up, you have to get your magazines, you have to work your pitch, then you start talking to people, interacting with people and it starts to give you a bit of self-respect back.
Neil: Terry used the following expression to describe his old way of life: no self-esteem.
The magazine... gave me structure. You have to get up, you have to get your magazines, you have to work your pitch, then you start talking to people, interacting with people and it starts to give you a bit of self-respect back.
Terry Gore, a former seller of the Big Issue
Li: 沒有自尊心。
Neil: No structure in his life.
Li: 沒有生活結構。
Neil: He was drifting about committing petty crime.
Li: 整天游游逛逛干些非法活動。
Neil: But the magazine has changed all of that. He works his pitch, he talks and interacts with people and got back some self-respect.
Li: Self respect 自尊。
Neil: The past 20 years has seen a lot of homeless people stand on their feet again. Here's John Bird.
I would say there's quite a few hundred thousand, not just in the UK but in Europe and Australia and Africa and North and South America. So it's a very very simple principle of sorting your life out. It then puts you in a position where you are under starter's orders and you can move on.
John says the real magic is to help people help themselves.
Neil: Here we heard the phrase ''under starter's orders". This comes from horse racing, it simply means being prepared and waiting for imminent action.
Li: To be under starter's orders 這個來自賽馬比賽的短語意思是各就各位，準備行動。In this context it means to get ready for a new life, right?
Neil: Yes. As John said, what makes The Big Issue different from other charities is the very idea of making it on your own.
But the real point about it, I think, the real magic is that idea of self-help, because so few charities and so few givers give people the chance of making it on their own.
Neil: That's why the magazine has become so successful, isn't it? The idea of helping people to help themselves.
The real magic is that idea of self-help, because so few charities and so few givers give people the chance of making it on their own.
John Bird, founder of the Big Issue
Li: 是的。幫助無家可歸者找回自尊自立，讓他們重返社會。
Neil: Twenty years on The Big Issue has grown steadily, from a monthly magazine to a weekly publication.
Li: With over 300,000 copies sold a week The Big Issue has certainly made its name in a big way.
Neil: Thanks for listening and see you next time.
Li: 謝謝大家收聽，我們下次節目再會。
